It took me out of the film more then the awkward script.
+8
Sideways Koray
Lucas, prepare to die!
Maurizio's Halo
indy v4.2
Ghost Pirate LeBlanc
crocodile's skeleton
Upended Quint
Stefan's Ghoest
12 posters
Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Stefan's Ghoest- Posts : 160
Join date : 2011-08-30
- Post n°1
Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Particularly during the second half. All the way though the Jungle Chase, and the finding of the temple, I never got the feeling they were out in the actual jungle.
It took me out of the film more then the awkward script.
It took me out of the film more then the awkward script.
Upended Quint- Posts : 149
Join date : 2011-08-29
It literally looks like they filmed it inside an Indiana Jones theme park attraction. Or a garden centre.
crocodile's skeleton- Posts : 116
Join date : 2011-08-29
Why does Jaws shark look like rubber?
Karol
Karol
Upended Quint- Posts : 149
Join date : 2011-08-29
Because it was made in 1975.
crocodile's skeleton- Posts : 116
Join date : 2011-08-29
So KOTCS looks like this because it was made in 2008.
Funnily enough, I actually did answer the question.
Karol
Funnily enough, I actually did answer the question.
Karol
Last edited by crocodile's skeleton on Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:28 pm; edited 1 time in total
Ghost Pirate LeBlanc- Posts : 101
Join date : 2011-08-30
ILM stretched themselves too thin, working on too many movies at once, instead of focusing on making the best possible effects for this one particular movie
Upended Quint- Posts : 149
Join date : 2011-08-29
Sorry, what?crocodile's skeleton wrote:So KOTCS looks like this because it was made in 2008.
Funnily enough, I actually did answer the question.
Karol
crocodile's skeleton- Posts : 116
Join date : 2011-08-29
I mean, it's not like by 2008 we reached a peak of this technology. That's what I meant.
Karol
Karol
indy v4.2- Posts : 20
Join date : 2011-08-30
To be fair, only part of the movie has bad CGI. Most of the large scale stuff, like the departure scene, look great. The ants too.
Stefan's Ghoest- Posts : 160
Join date : 2011-08-30
- Post n°10
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Some of the large scale stuff looks good. The ants are a mixed bag. some shots are great, while others look fake.
Maurizio's Halo- Posts : 24
Join date : 2011-08-31
- Post n°11
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Actually it's more interesting to find out why Indy 4 has such a lousy script. Here's an acceptable explanation:
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/05/50-flaws-of-indy-iv.html
(This blog is a goldmine of really interesting stuff, check it out).
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/05/50-flaws-of-indy-iv.html
(This blog is a goldmine of really interesting stuff, check it out).
Lucas, prepare to die!- Posts : 71
Join date : 2011-08-29
- Post n°12
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
i think that some bag effects are intentional, a nod to the other movie's imperfections.
I think jungle chase has very good CGI. except the vines part. and crotch plants othewise im pretty sure the are many items in the jungle you dont know its cgi.
and it was filmed in hawai's jungle, they just overgrew the dirt road where they filmed.
even if the ants look fake in some shots, its the best cgi insect animal ever seen on screen.
I think jungle chase has very good CGI. except the vines part. and crotch plants othewise im pretty sure the are many items in the jungle you dont know its cgi.
and it was filmed in hawai's jungle, they just overgrew the dirt road where they filmed.
even if the ants look fake in some shots, its the best cgi insect animal ever seen on screen.
Sideways Koray- Admin
- Posts : 79
Join date : 2010-08-24
Age : 33
Location : Maryland
- Post n°13
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Lucas, prepare to die! wrote:
even if the ants look fake in some shots, its the best cgi insect animal ever seen on screen.
Eight Legged Freaks had some awesome effects, but I believe they did a combo of CGI and animatronics.
Faleel's Essence- Posts : 61
Join date : 2011-08-29
- Post n°14
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Lucas, prepare to die! wrote:i think that some bag effects are intentional, a nod to the other movie's imperfections.
I think jungle chase has very good CGI. except the vines part. and crotch plants othewise im pretty sure the are many items in the jungle you dont know its cgi.
and it was filmed in hawai's jungle, they just overgrew the dirt road where they filmed.
even if the ants look fake in some shots, its the best cgi insect animal ever seen on screen.
Yes, its not really the CGI itself that is poor, its the lighting/coloring of the film that sucks.
Stefan's Ghoest- Posts : 160
Join date : 2011-08-30
- Post n°15
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Lucas, prepare to die! wrote:
and it was filmed in hawai's jungle, they just overgrew the dirt road where they filmed.
The part were they drive along the edge of a cliff looked very cartoonish, especially compared to a similar scene in Raiders. and some of the background work looked fake.
Too much like LOTR, not enough like the real thing.
Stefan's Ghoest- Posts : 160
Join date : 2011-08-30
- Post n°16
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Faleel's Essence wrote:
Yes, its not really the CGI itself that is poor, its the lighting/coloring of the film that sucks.
Not untill they get too the jungle.
Faleel's Essence- Posts : 61
Join date : 2011-08-29
- Post n°17
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Stefan's Ghoest wrote:Faleel's Essence wrote:
Yes, its not really the CGI itself that is poor, its the lighting/coloring of the film that sucks.
Not untill they get too the jungle.
I was talking about the Jungle...
Lucas, prepare to die!- Posts : 71
Join date : 2011-08-29
- Post n°18
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Stefan's Ghoest wrote:Lucas, prepare to die! wrote:
and it was filmed in hawai's jungle, they just overgrew the dirt road where they filmed.
The part were they drive along the edge of a cliff looked very cartoonish, especially compared to a similar scene in Raiders. and some of the background work looked fake.
Too much like LOTR, not enough like the real thing.
i knew thre was good in you too!
nightscape94- Posts : 17
Join date : 2011-08-31
- Post n°19
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
I think it's harder to get across the idea of campiness with CGI. The background projection, optical effects, and physical effects in Raiders all worked because it was complimented by the material. When you try to achieve the same effect with CGI, it doesn't work.
Upended Quint- Posts : 149
Join date : 2011-08-29
- Post n°20
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Yes. People accept bad sfx when the film itself is of high quality. Indy IV is low quality masquerading as cream of the crop.
Henry Buck in Demon Form- Posts : 15
Join date : 2011-08-31
Age : 35
- Post n°21
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
This.nightscape94 wrote:I think it's harder to get across the idea of campiness with CGI. The background projection, optical effects, and physical effects in Raiders all worked because it was complimented by the material. When you try to achieve the same effect with CGI, it doesn't work.
Upended Quint- Posts : 149
Join date : 2011-08-29
- Post n°22
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Ironically, Raiders isn't camp at all. In fact it's the movie least likely to sell that theory.
nightscape94- Posts : 17
Join date : 2011-08-31
- Post n°23
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Perhaps camp isn't the right word, but I'm referring to the exaggerated and over the top style of film making used in Raiders, especially the story and characters. How about "pulp"? There's something about CGI that doesn't service that type of story well.
crocodile's skeleton- Posts : 116
Join date : 2011-08-29
- Post n°24
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Raiders isn't, but the other 3 certainly are. Contrary to what people say, this is rather unstable franchise quality-wise. KOTCS simply follows suit.Upended Quint wrote:Ironically, Raiders isn't camp at all. In fact it's the movie least likely to sell that theory.
Karol
Upended Quint- Posts : 149
Join date : 2011-08-29
- Post n°25
Re: Why does Indy 4 has such lousy CGI
Contrary to what you say, I think the only camp one is ToD. Which is a compliment. KotCS isn't camp at all. Campiness requires a degree of quality to shine through. KotCS is merely a bad movie with some good bits.
Last edited by Upended Quint on Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|